Can God hate a baby? Did He?

David said....

Psalm 51:5 I know I’ve been a sinner ever since I was born.

    I’ve been a sinner ever since my mother became pregnant with me.

Yahweh said....

Malachi 1:2 “I loved Jacob, 3 but Esau I hated.”

Paul said....

Romans 9:1 I am speaking the truth in Christ, I am not lying; my conscience bears me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2 that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen by race. 4 They are Israelites, and to them belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; 5 to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed forever. Amen.

6 But it is not as though the word of God had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, 7 and not all are children of Abraham because they are his descendants; but “Through Isaac shall your descendants be named.” 8 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are reckoned as descendants. 9 For this is what the promise said, “About this time I will return and Sarah shall have a son.” 10 And not only so, but also when Rebecca had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad, in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of his call, 12 she was told, “The elder will serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

I am glad we spoke about this today. Here’s some questions I have:

Did Paul lie?

Was Paul inspired by the Holy Spirit to speak this as truth, that God hated Esau before he was even born?

Did Paul claim this of his own volition and was not inspired by the Holy Spirit? If so, then Paul’s writings should be taken out of the Bible and we should only read the Gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (including Revelation written by John).

No one wants to believe that God could do anything that we consider wrong. This reminds me of my aunt. For the longest time she did not believe that anyone would actually go to hell. She could not bring herself to believe that a loving and forgiving God would send any of His creation to burn for eternity. Then she read about the Passover when God killed the 1^st born of those who did not have the blood of the lamb on their doors. She was shocked and horrified to find this out. She had watched the 10 Commandments with Charlton Heston but she never comprehended that it was God who did the killing until she read the story herself. It shocked her that God did not stop the killing of the “innocent” babies when Moses was floated down the river. And that He didn’t stop the killings when all the babies were killed by King Herrod when he wanted to kill Yeshua. My aunt reluctantly came to the conclusion that when you live in a fallen world there’s some really messed up things that happen. In our own strength, to cope, we trick ourselves into believing lies to help us deal with the truth.

I never want to mislead people, only speak the truth. So, either the truth is that God has the capacity to hate a baby (regardless of His reason) or Paul is a liar (and God came to hate Esau later after he had sinned, giving Yahweh a reason to hate Esau).

Something to consider is that at the beginning of chapter 9, Paul defends himself by saying that that he’s speaking in truth and not lying. But whatever you decide to believe what God is capable of doing and not doing, when it comes down to it, no matter what God decides to do or not do, His actions/decisions are just and right and good.

FW: Food Donation Box

This is the letter I just emailed to my boss. Something to think about doing at your place of business or church, club, etc. This could get very serious. Food stamp recipients cannot wait a month to go to the store but they may have to. I heard one homeless man interviewed say that "if people can't get their food stamps they'll steal, people will do what they have to do."

The pantries are going to be cleaned out if we don't help. People are always bashing Christians for not stopping human suffering. Let's shut their mouths by digging deep into our cupboards and shopping for extras to head this off!!

~Becky

From: Becky Cheek
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:32 AM
To: Blank
  Cc: Blank
  Subject: Food Donation Box

 

Hi,

 

I am sure you heard that the food stamp program had a computer crash that lasted 10 hours, which caused a few food stamp recipients' cards not to work, which made them panic. They overran a few Wal-Mart stores demanding food. It was really amazing how fast people raided the store shelves in such a short amount of time. The food banks tried to help but were cleared out in no time.

Now there is a new issue that would be much worse and will affect all food stamp recipients. Due to the government shutdown, the food stamp program has been told not to issue credit to the food stamp cards for the month of November, until further notice.

 

But we may be able to help if we put a box up to collect canned goods and shelf-stable milk to bring to the Open Door Mission by the end of October. ODM always need donations but come November, the month of big Thanksgiving dinners, the demand most likely will be unprecedented should the food stamp recipients not receive their credits. If by the grace of God they do receive their credits, then great. Either way, we've helped the less fortunate.

 

Let me know if it is okay to put a box up for donations. Joel said he has a spot to put a box.

 

Sincerely yours,

 

Becky Cheek, Administrative Assistant

 

I am an American by birth and a Christian by rebirth.

I am an American by race, and a Christian by grace.

 

FW: MUST watch for every woman!

You must watch this for yourself and with the females around you. Pass this on and spread the worth!

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/t6T3MwMBqBU


P.S. Paul, I didn't have your mom's email so please pass this on to her. I think I have Autumn's but not sure so pass it on to her too.

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The Book of Life

I am studying the book of Revelation again. This time I have noticed so much more than I have in previous times. To better understand what I am reading, with almost every verse I am compelled to stop to look in other books of the Bible and/or seek out the history and culture of the time. Needless to say, it's taking me much longer to study it this time.

Tonight, I was reading in chapter 3 when I read the phrase, 'book of life' and I thought to myself, "Where else does the Bible mention the book of life?" I found the different places and am posting them to my blog. 

Enjoy.

Exodus 32:32 But now, please forgive their sin—but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.”

33 The Lord replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. 34 Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin.”

Daniel 12:1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.

Luke 10:20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”

Philippians 4:3 Yes, and I ask you, my true companion, help these women since they have contended at my side in the cause of the gospel, along with Clement and the rest of my co-workers, whose names are in the book of life.

Revelation 3:5 The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels.

Revelation 13:8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

Revelation 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.

Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.